OK what would you like in the next generation tabletop CD player....

for me....
Finer pitch resolution at least .05%
MP3/AAC/WMA compatability
Lose the effects, they cause too much volume/distortion problems.
Keep the loop/sample 4 banks
larger jog wheel 7-9 inches.
keep the static platter, IMHO it works better than the other rotating platters.
A/B adjust on the loops
User upgradability
2 loops per song
a dump feature, too drop curse words like another manufacturers
Go back to slot in drives

PS I was j/k too Adam

quote:

Originally posted by DJ Stevie Ray:
[qb] OK what would you like in the next generation tabletop CD player....

for me...

keep the static platter, IMHO it works better than the other rotating platters.
[/qb]

Come on guy enough with the jokes. We know what new toy you have been playing with at the Expo.
If static was better you wouldn't be preordering 4 of those new players. hahaha

I really don't know what to think. Is making a dream list really worth it. I thought that maybe we would have seen something new by now. I remember doing this before. I remember mentioning the player should have better ventilation for heat build up. We all want a bigger platter. I too thought about the new decks as mentioned from the expo. I would like three for my next setup. My thing is I want to wait and see how it performs. If AA is seriously looking at putting something out then maybe I will wait and see what they have to offer. You have to admit the cdi series did not make as big a splash as the Pro Scratch series...I don't know what to say. I personally just want something that does what it says and has minimal problems when it comes to repairs. Yes I know stuff happens....but it is like the car dealer scenario....fix it to last for a while and then you are right back. It seems all these toys we buy last as long as the warrenty and then something happens...I don't know maybe I'm just having a bad day today....no redbull, I'm hungry for some reason...maybe I should eat.....What ever happens I wish the new player would hurry and hit the street. Also lets do videos like those other guys you visited at the expo always do. At least when you go to the site the downloads work...What happen to ours?? I'm done now...sorry for the negative feedback. I still am down for American Audio no matter what. But like Stevie and a lot of you ..I too am a gear junkie....

What happened to the other post that were here before my first post above??

thats what I was wondering

quote:

Originally posted by DJ Stevie Ray:
[qb] OK what would you like in the next generation tabletop CD player....

for me....
Finer pitch resolution at least .05%
MP3/AAC/WMA compatability
Lose the effects, they cause too much volume/distortion problems.
Keep the loop/sample 4 banks
larger jog wheel 7-9 inches.
keep the static platter, IMHO it works better than the other rotating platters.
A/B adjust on the loops
User upgradability
2 loops per song
a dump feature, too drop curse words like another manufacturers
Go back to slot in drives

PS I was j/k too Adam [/qb]

So what do you like better about the static plater v/s the rotating?


On another note I think the best improvement AA could make on the next player would be better pitch resolution, cleaner sound, and larger jog(7" or bigger).

I'm also wondering why the 304 looks like the cdi/cdj combo. Personally the new 304 should have been AA's (heard something interesting about this...makes sense when you compair display among other things). This is what I like to see in a new player from American Audio:
-Better pitch control
-Pro Scratch style dispay...Larger than the cdi
-larger jog wheel
-SD card/ Compact Flash for memory
-NO tray load
-better ventilation
-on board effects (unless a seperate efx machine was available with the new line of cd players)
-bpm counter (I still use the Pro Scratch)
-mp3 compatible
Those are the maint hings for me. Efx on board aren't a big deal if you have a seperate console to achieve these efx's. Also it must have the break efx if no on boards are available.
Now with that said lets see how far this goes.

Ok one more thing and yes I have to say I pulled a Puff Daddy and took a sample on this one.... . This idea makes perfect sense for us gear junkies who buy everything any way....
--put a usb port in either a new 12" mixer and or the cd player so you can use thumb drives to save cue points.
This way you can mix players from home use and then go to the club and use the other guys usb capable products. Not my idea but very good idea no doubt......

all of the above and have it cost the same as the CDI's

and it'll be great if the unit can detect and refuse to play r.kellys - trapped in the closet

Adam, Tiger.
I was trying to make a constructive thread, and I thought Adam and I have made our points, so I cleaned up our little argument.

Adam,
As far as the static platter. Here are my personal feelings.
One - Owning both CDI's and S5000's the touch sensative platter is more responsive, and holds a cue point allot better during fast movements.
Two - Yes their was a big improvement in the s3500, but I am not basing the purchase on the platter. I am getting it because of the finer pitch resolution, the dump, better tempo control, and MP3 support. This is why these features are on my list for the next AA CDTT.
Three - American Audio has made a touch sensative platter for a few years, and they can pull the technology off now very inexpensively, and with out complications, new technologies, introduce new problems, and of course allot more cost to cover R&D.
Four - Less moving parts = less chance of something breaking leaving you stuck at a gig.

Those are just my personal preferences. So now you know why I currently prefer the s3500, and also why I am hoping to get our ideas out to American Audio so they can improve their decks and give us (the users) what we really want.

Good points.

To me the best thing you guys can do for the next player is better pitch resolution.

Pssst...(This will cause a still, I can guarantee it.)

...why what for American Audio to make this "dream machine" when it already exists ...features and all? (not AA brand)
Do you honestly think AA can do it better and cheaper?

ROQ out.

Didn't we do this a while back for a MP3/hard-drive hybrid unit?

OK, here's what I would like:
- Pitch control.... .01% in the 4-10 range. 100% too, and Master Tempo/Pitch Lock.
- All we (ok, I) need is scratch, brake, drag start, reverse, and dump. Dump can come in very handy. Let the mixer handle other effects.
- Slot in CDs.
- Sampler, with the choice of scratching sample OR CD.
- At least two cue points, with trim.
- I like the static platter too (touch sensative). AA seems to be the only one who got it right. Bigger is always better.

quote:

Originally posted by DJ ROQ:
[qb]...why what for American Audio to make this "dream machine" when it already exists ...features and all? (not AA brand)[/qb]

Roq I know you love your CDJ's, but....
1) not even the 1000 is all things to all people, or else no other manufacturer would ever sell a CD player.
2) Not everyone can afford $1100 for a single CD player.

What I am looking for here is suggestions for improvements for the next generation CD player. Not for American Audio to make the next "club standard". IMHO AA can leave out a few features, and add some others that I feel are more important to most DJ's, that can make their next player the "$400 standard". Right now the budget CDTT market is up for grabs, with 4 contenders in the market. Each with their own strengths and weeknesses. I feel AA only needs to improve a few key features to make it tops once again, like the PS2 was, when it's competition was the CDJ100 and Axis 9.

Stevie I hear what you are saying and appreciate the goals of this thread. I'd like to provide the folks reading this post with something to ponder and pass on some of my experience before they make their suggestions.

On the very first post of this thread, apart from the MP3/WMA compatability, you've pretty much described the CDJ1000. Yes we all know they are the most expensive CD decks on the market but they cost that much for a very good reason....they are 100% rock solid performers and a world wide club standard CD deck as you so rightly put.

As you know I've owned American Audio decks before, I've been through a pair of PS1s and PS2s. I was especially disappointed with the PS2s and after moving onto the CDJ1000s, I've come to realise IMHO that PIO equipment is on a completely different level - simply put, they feel and work better and I trust them to provide me with many many years of service, well beyond the warranty expenditure.

The point I want to make is that if AA want to make a new CD deck that will retain or earn some credibility in the market they must move away from the cheap'n'nasty - under$400US mark strategy and look towards making solid professional equipment standard that is built to last. Now that I have moved onto PIO CD players I will not move back, I've been burnt by the American Audio experiment and a rather costly one at that. I regret not considering the higher end scale of CD player and fell for the fresh look(ego) and "price taggery" AA was offering at the time - biiig mistake!!!!

DJ's, listen to me, you can't expect professional DJ and PA equipment to go the distance and perform beyond expectations unless you invest that extra money. To build quality gear costs money and you must pay for that quality. Think of it as the difference between a Mercedes and a Kia, which vehicle costs more and which one do you think will continue to perform and drive the best? I think the answer is obvious.

I'll get off my box now....

ROQ out.