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Is there a way I can incorporate a DMX fogger into MyDMX. I know I can have it send a value (it's only one channel) to turn on and off the machine, i've already done this. But during my show I would like to be able to add fog as needed. I'm not sure if im explaing this correctly, but I dont want fog just thrown into my scenes. I would like to run my scenes and slide up the single fog slider at the same time. I could just use the remote, but the DMX allows me to control fog output. The remote just does on or off. Any help would be mucho appreciated....

Gracia,
Russ
 
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Override the fog channel using HTP?
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Sure, you can incorporate a fogger into MyDMX. You might want to make a profile for it if one doesn't already exist.

What model is it?

I have the FogStorm 700 with the wireless remote. Works great, ON/OFF, and it also has a maximum ON cycle before it has to cool down and cycle itself. Best I could do is I think there is a DMX adaptor for the remote port, which I am inclined to check into rather seriously.

But, I don't get the issue yet. Do you want a slower output of fog? Some machines, or at least most machines I am aware of, have fog in two levels: OFF and ON(either you're getting zilch or you're getting the fixed output rate until the machine stops it or you stop it before that duty cycle ends).

If you want to add fog as needed, you could give smaller puffs over a longer period of time, which isn't perfect, but may work. You could incorporate a fan to thin it and spread it faster, which again, may or may not do it for you.

DMX doesn't necessarily mean you have control over the "output amount", but merely the on/off.

You can definately do this. You may want to have a controller such as the Korg nanoKONTROL, where you can assign a fader to that DMX channel and then use that to over-ride a scene. In your case, this would be ideal. You can have your scene doing whatever, then pump some fog in and then lower that fader again.

You're saying that FOG and SCENES are not directly tied together. You want to run your scenes as you see fit, and then add fog on an as-needed basis. Hey, if so, that does make sense.

I was working a show last year where the guys had a highly integrated light show and their fog triggers were necessary, not only for effect, but seeing the beams was also part of the show. At times, there was a tiny bit too much fog, but it still worked with their show.

Share more information. Especially the fog machine and hardware you're using.


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My Flex Fog 1800 DOES have control over "fog output" , but only in DMX mode. I have tested it using the MyDMX software and I can control the output from 0-255 (0-100%) and it allows it to act almost as a Hazer when used in conjunction with a fan. The problem i'm having is that I dont know how to set up MyDMx for this scenario..Example. I have 10 scenes setup and would like to add fog at any givin time through MyDMX at any level (0-255) without leaving the current scene that i'm in. So let's say i'm on scene one and I have the Fog machine on channel one. Can I still control the slider on channel 1 while in another scene without pre proggraming it to do that. You know , On The Fly..
Thanks
Russ
 
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Thanks Jingles.
I never knew what those buttons were for till now. That makes life a whole lot easier. I now feel like I can control my lights and fog On the Fly....cool

Russ
 
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Yes, you can. You'll want to have an external controller of some sorts though, which is why I recommended the Korg nanoKONTROL. That's not your only option, but it's a convenient one.

Assign a fader to the DMX channel used for your fog machine's controllable output channel. You can bring it up and down as necessary. This should give you the control you want and need for your situation.

You could also make 10 NEW scenes. Let me preface that I am assuming your scenes are just a basic WASH and not a more complex stepped scene. If you're just using washes, hear me out. If you're using stepped scenes, my idea is horribly flawed for you.

Let's say Scene 1 is red. JUST RED.
Make a COPY of that scene, say "Red Fog". Set the scene to also include the fog at the output level you want it by adjusting fader 1. Let's say you need maybe 25% output for 4 seconds. You can tell MyDMX to then "NEXT" itself to the "Red" scene again. Assign a trigger via the keyboard or MIDI so you can quickly hit that scene. This gives you more precise control.

Going with an external controller, you can still get good control, but you might be off a tiny bit here and there, which may be acceptable and most likely is.

This is where my idea fails if you're using a stepped scene: When you would enter that "Red Fog" scene, it would break where-ever you are in the "Red" scene, and then do it's Red Fog scene thing, then kick back to the beginning of your "Red" scene.

Note that you can use the mouse to do this, but it's much easier using a controller. I'll go test this later as I do have some programming I am doing with my MyDMX later today. I'm still working on a big event and I'm just making a mega set of scenes for it to keep things going for up to an hour, then have it repeat. The event was supposed to be 3 hours, then it went to 4, now I'm hearing 6 hours.


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Thanks again.

You both have been a huge help. I have been anticipating running a spectacular show using MyDMX , but unfortunatley my "CHAUVET" Lights have been in for repair twice now. Hopefully next time everything will go smooth.

Thanks,
Russ
 
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Oh , and Jingles, I see it says under your post Wausau , WI . Check out the Grateful Garcia Gathering in Black River Falls later this month.

Not trying to sneak a plug in. I just know it is only a couple hours away from wausau.

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Oh your doin the lights for that show? Nice. Go ahead plug away. Maybe I could come down and help you run it. Haha.
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