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HI all,

I have a dura truss and just purchased another 5 ft. section for it. The problem I am experiencing is the clips that mate the truss sections together are very poorly constructed and the pin separates from the clip. This has happened on a couple of them. Anyone elese have this problem? Any ideas of fixes? Are these covered by warranty?
 
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Am I to understand that you're going from 10-feet to 15 feet?

That's what I intend to do. I figured the duratruss would be easier to break down than I-beamn trussing.

I'd like to see a photo or close-up showing the inter-connects. I was hoping they would seat within each other and then safety-type pins would be used to keep them together for the night.


Chris Pickett, Studio42 916-601-7089
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Chris,

Yes that is exactly what I am doing. However, all the pin / clasps that hold the individual 5' sectons together break very easy and I have 3 total broken now. The problem is the pin seperates from the half moon clip that clasps over the circular portion of the truss to lock the pin in place. When it breaks the pin can now slide out 1 side. I have used the system only once and they just fall apart. Other than that, it is a strong / great system!

Ric
 
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Not to be negative, but that doesn't sound very re-assuring.

If the stuff seats within the tubing, it should be very rigid and strong. But if they join without seating, that's never gonna be durable. I don't mind if a pin goes through where the piping slides into each other, but not an external joining solution..

Looking at the assembly instructions, I can see what you're talking about. At least you're saying it's the pin breaking.

I guess what is the problem exactly? It it some sort of weld breaking? Is it just unseating? Maybe it needs a re-design of the pin.

My guess would be that the pins would also be covered under warranty, but ADJ service would need to jump in and give a definitive answer.I know I got a fresh piece of I-Beam truss because a set of holes failed to be drilled.


One of my crank stands uses these pins that have a retainer clip that goes on the other side to ensure no slipping. I would think using a pin with a wide top end and then a hole drilled and one of these retainer clips would be a good cost effective solution. In addition, it would be safe and you could get replacements at most hardware stores in a pinch. I would take a photo and post it, but I I am gearing up for a big event.


Chris Pickett, Studio42 916-601-7089
http://www.studio42.com
 
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The question hasn't asked yet. What are you putting on that truss?

According to the assembly instructions, maximum load for 2 sections is 264 pounds. Because nothing is picking up that extra load by adding a third span, I bet total load drops to around 200 pounds, maybe less. Evenly distributing the weight helpswith overall safety. Even so, this should droop in the middle a little bit.

Now it comes down to the pins again. Since those are the attachment devices, yes, that is the weak point. I think that C part is just to help make things look neat without having to use a more expensive pin and/or use a cotter pin.

I'm sure the pin are aluminum, not steel, but for the weight, solid aluminum like that is amazingly wicked strong. Steel may be cheaper, but in those amounts, cost is negligible, with not much increase in performance.

But, are the pins themselves breaking? I think that's really the key factor. If the pins are not breaking, that's a good thing. You should still calculate how much you're putting up there on the truss. If it's just the C portion, then maybe it's due to excessive drooping or perhaps just not great construction. With that part no doubt being a rather thin sheet metal, it won't take much to mess it up.

I think you're just not providing enough information. Once you share your weight load on there, I think that may point to the true cause of the problem. Then again, maybe not, but I think it needs to be addressed.

I think I may avoid Dura-Truss and go for Global Truss products. I think in m application, heavier duty stand and trussing might be a better option. Even if I go with a medium-grade product, being able to do a 20-foot span with proper crank stands would be more to haul, more weight but also safer. But please keep in mind, I'm not a DJ, I'm doing mainly larger shows, A-List and premium quality acts these days, so my focus is shifting towards the higher end products.


Chris Pickett, Studio42 916-601-7089
http://www.studio42.com
 
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Chris,

The pins have broken during assembly of the 2 or 3 truss sections before it is even placed on the stands. It is where the pin meets the clasp. It looks like it is stamped / pressed in there, but a weld would be a better solution. The only items I put on this truss are 2 Accu Scan 250's, well within its weight specs.

Ric
 
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I would agree. If it's a press fit witout using some temperature-type tricks to ensure no slipping, it ain't gonna hold, and even then, it's questionable. Best is to do a weld all the way around and use SLIGHTLY thicker medal.

Companies have to TRY to save money. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

You're definately way under load, so it's definately pin construction.


Chris Pickett, Studio42 916-601-7089
http://www.studio42.com
 
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